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Keith's avatar

I don't understand this post. It's still coal. It's just useful for steel. But we can make steel with Hydrogen and while not cost effective yet, limiting coaking coal will make the process cheaper faster. As you point out steel accounts for 8% of carbon. That's a ton. If we want to limit carbon output steel needs to become cleaner. One thing you didn't mention for making hydrogen is electrolysis. That means that wind turbines at night (because winds tend to be stronger at night when power demand diminishes) can generate electricity to split water molecules. You then get oxygen, a critical valuable asset, and hydrogen, which can be used in steel making and reduce steel's carbon footprint 20-25%. For a blog that talks about tail risk you don't seem to really get the urgency in not implementing carbon reducing policies. The "it's too important" argument is wrong and dumb. You know what makes it hard to build new buildings? Those cities being underwater.

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DRS's avatar

Well... Classical Chicken and Egg Problem (here we have the Chicken - again). Green Hydrogen is a very nice idea - however we'd need a transport infrastructure for that. Unfortunately Hydrogen is a very nasty gas that has a tendency to destroy most metals / alloys and diffuse through most plastics. Very bad for pipelines, very bad for gaskets and valves. Believe me - I know what I am talking about, because I was plant manager in a Hydrogen Plant some 20 years ago.

I am not saying it will never be possible to setup such infrastructure, but it will take time (>10 - 20 years). And until then we'd better use natural gas and the existing and very cost efficient pipeline infrastructure to transport it and make hydrogen close to the consumer. Steam Reforming of Natural Gas is emmitting 1 Molecule of CO2 per 2 Molecule H2 - thats a lot and means it is simply not viable (anymore). I am putting big hopes in BASFs Methane Pyrolysis - a process, where you make directly H2 and carbon black. They are running a relatively big pilot plant for that already and I'd expect them to commercialize within next years. And you could even use biogas to produce H2.

However - all this is probably too complex for most politicians (and voters) - and thus I expect deciders to take bad / wrong decisions, such as shutting down all nuclear power plants in Germany in a very short time frame after Fukushima. It's all frustrating...

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