In the macro view, allowing the growth of uncontrolled gov't regulation was the wrong move. Garret's book, "Ex America", in the 1930's, correctly nailed the revolution that took place.
Unfortunately, that ship has sailed, so inordinate amounts of pain and suffering will be the things that will "fix" this.
When the repellent mass man and mass woman can't charge their iDevice in order to poast and virtue signal on social media, then we might move in the right direction.
not to worry. When we colonize Mars we can exploit the abundant supplies of unobtainium located on that planet. Two of the main properties of Unobtainium aside from it's many unique properties are that it is stronger than aluminum and lighter than steel
1. "The energy crisis that started in Europe has spread into China, and authorities there have taken draconian steps to curtail industries that require substantial energy to operate”. There is no energy crisis in China. There was a brief interlude when, after removing 1 billion tonnes of coal from production each year since 2015 and simultaneously encountering an early winter AND an unprecedented manufacturing boom that supplies were tight. But everything's back on track as China is adding more renewable generating capacity each month than the rest of the world combined.
2. "Allowing China to abuse its environment so it can flood the world with cheap goods and put our manufacturers at a terminal disadvantage is dumb policy”. China has never abused its environment the way we abused ours. They have nothing to match our 1100 toxic Superfund sites. They consolidated rare earth and magnesium mining SPECIFICALLY to protect the environment.
So your argument is that since they do not have any superfund like designated sites that they are environmentally responsible? That the Chinese communist government does not publicly report environmental pollution means it does not occur? Wow, such insight. I bet it does wonders for your social credit score. You are going to be able to take the fast trains again in no time.
"Only those who are authentic, true and real can fully realize their own nature. If they can fully realize their own nature, they can fully realize human nature. If they can fully realize human nature they can fully realize the nature of things. If they can fully realize the nature of things they can take part in the transforming and nourishing process of Heaven and Earth. If they can take part in the transforming and nourishing process of Heaven and Earth they can form a trinity with Heaven and Earth". Confucius, Doctrine of the Mean.
Though more numerous today than ever, the Chinese thrive on land they have tilled for five thousand years, land that hosts ten percent of world’s plant species and fourteen percent of its wild animals, thanks to their ancient observation that, since man and Mother Nature are mutually dependent, man must care for his Mother.
The world’s first ecological legislation, banning tree-felling in Spring and fishing in July, was passed in 2000 BC. In 700 BC the noted Taoist Guan Zhong advocated state monopoly of natural resources, “A king who does not protect the environment does not deserve to be called king.” In 400 BC the Law of Fields ruled that river courses must not be blocked and vegetation must not be burned off in winter. In 200 BC Yang Fu advocated protecting an exhaustive list of endangered species and in 200 AD Taoists chose twenty-four mountain sites as the first nature reserves in history, set detailed rules for the protection of their animals, plants, water, and mineral resources, and taught local people survival skills so that they could live without hunting or large scale agriculture. Their practice of boiling water (for sanitation) and steeping leaves in it (for enjoyment) gave birth to tea.
In 1030 AD Confucian Zhang Zhai[1] confessed, “Heaven is my father and Earth is my mother and even such a small creature as I finds an intimate place in their midst. Therefore that which extends throughout the universe I regard as my body and that which directs the universe I consider as my nature. All people are my brothers and sisters and all things are my companions.” By 1200 AD, China counted one hundred and fifty nature reserves that have served as the settings for legends of animal deities and immortals, and all of which still exist and still harbor rare and endangered animals and plants. Historian Jonathan Schlesinger says the First Qing Emperor practiced environmentalism five hundred years ago:
I think of Changbaishan. It’s a volcano on the border between North Korea and China and the Manchus considered the lake inside the crater to be holy territory because it was the birthplace of the Manchus. The court had special rules on collecting ginseng or trapping sable and other fur-bearing animals on the mountain. When British explorers first climbed the mountain in the late 1800s they referred to it as untouched and unspoiled nature. In fact, it was very much touched. People had poached on the land but the court had been using its resources to protect that territory. The People’s Republic of China has now converted the space into a nature reserve[2].
In 1909, concerned about America’s deteriorating soil health Franklin King[3], chief of the USDA’s Division of Soil Management, found Chinese farmers growing crops in the same soil year after year with no loss of fertility and called their technique ‘permanent agriculture.’ We call it ‘permaculture’.

[1] Zhang, who had studied Daoism, said all things are composed of a primordial substance, qi, that includes matter and the forces that govern interactions between matter, yin and yang. In its dispersed, rarefied state, qi is invisible and insubstantial, but when it condenses it becomes a solid or liquid and takes on new properties. All material things are composed of condensed qi: rocks, trees, even people. There is nothing that is not qi. Thus, in a real sense, everything has the same essence.
[2] The 400,000 acre Changbaishan Biosphere Reserve is located in the northeast of China on the border with the People’s Democratic Republic of Korea.
[3] Chinese Peasants Taught the USDA to Farm Organically in 1909. By Lina Zeldovich JSTOR Daily. May 21, 2019
Between 1980-2015, the economy grew sixtyfold while energy consumption grew fivefold[1]–an eighty percent decline in energy intensity. Carbon intensity has fallen by fifty percent since 2005 and renewable power consumption is rising twenty-five percent annually and should reach twenty percent of total consumption by 2025. When London’s Environmental Investigation Agency reported that dozens of Chinese companies were still using toxic CFC-11 to make foam, the government phased out production of 280,000 tonnes of ozone-depleting substances (ODS) and set quotas on the manufacture, import and use of polluting chemicals like carbon tetrachloride. In 2015 the Pearl River Delta Industrial Trial Spot became the first region to reach America’s EPA air quality standard and, by 2017, ninety percent of China’s cities had reached their targets. The World Health Organization says that, between 2013-2016, the sixty biggest Chinese cities lowered their particulate emissions by thirty percent

[1] Energy intensity level of primary energy (MJ/$2011 PPP GDP) fell from 21.2 in 1990 to 6.7 in 2015 (World Bank)
As usual, an excellent article Doomberg. China has really decimated the manufacturing landscape in both the U.S. and Mexico, where I have lived for more than 30 years. however it's worth remembering how it is they got admitted to the WTO and what country lobbied almost as hard for China"s ascencion to that organization as China itself. That country would have been the US and they beat-up on Mexico until The Mexican president relented and signed to allow China to join in December of 2001, I believe it was. Mexico was the last signature needed and the US threatened it with trade sanctions if it didn't comply wirh it's wishes. Immediately the manufacturing jobs started leaving Mexico by the thousands and China became exactly what the US. wanted it to become...a cheap manufacturing platform for western manufacturers. Don't blame China. Blame ourselves and Wall Street.
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I see the fundamental issues here as being how does the planet deal with dwindling natural resources and also keep our environment livable. In the past shrinking resource bases have often been the cause for war. Lately, it seems that the sound of the war drums is increasing in volume. Do you think that many in the western industrialized world or the emerging economies would willingly accept a lower standard of living to begin solving this problem?
Doomberg has done a great job of identifying many problems we are facing as we are transitioning to greener (less reliable and efficient) energy.
It is claimed that it is done in the name of science, but I would more accurately call it superficial science. It does not stand up with any serious analysis.
Doomberg, I'd be interested in seeing a thorough and thought out writing from the team on how to handle some of these topics on a policy level - state subsidies, tariffs, etc. It seems that the policies of both political parties are designed to war against each other for maximum failure; unions raise labor costs without the focus on actually producing goods, while the "free market" religious mantra almost always assures that we'll be undercut by states and locals with lower living standards, lower environmental standards, willing to state subsidize, and/or willing to engage in currency manipulation.
Obviously, its a complicated topic! One worthy of the Doomberg team!
Hard to say. All I've seen from the reading I've done is that their focus is on becoming a stable regional power that cares about the virtue of its citizens - in that order. It will focus on doing what it can for its citizens only after ensuring political stability, and has made it very clear it does NOT CARE to follow the consumerist-hedonist slide the West has. The tech crack down was to pre-emptively take away power before they could have more power on information and the economy than the State thought healthy. The same for why they're allowing the current Evergrande stuff to go down.
That's a ridiculous claim. They've grown their economy while trying to keep investors from taking profits out of the system and trying to keep other countries from undercutting their labor. In the Evergrande debacle they're trying to make whole the little men rather than the bankers. They're outlawing hedonism in the forms of effeminism, videogames, and what they see as the lack of morality in movies. They're trying to fight gamification in investments.
What parent wouldn't try to help their children?
What parent wouldn't try to keep their inheritance for their ancestors, like the Chinese try to keep money onshore?
What parent wouldn't try to keep sleazy no good snake oil sellers for children that can't tell the difference? Isn't that what our 2008 banking reforms were SUPPOSED to be?
What parent wouldn't tell their children to stop watching too much porn? Or that playing too many videogames is unhealthy? That they need to go out and be productive citizens? Don't we have a whole meme culture of that with Gen Z? We've repeatedly tried to do similar things in the past here in the US about it, but China SIMPLY IS and is doing it quickly.
The same with the tech crack downs. They see how facebook and twitter divide a populace, lead to abilities to silence a sitting POTUS, and all other kinds of crazy, anti-civilizational trends. So they stop it and put regulations on it, like a parent.
They find the route towards immorality and weakness the West has taken sickening, and are doing what they think is best to avoid it. You and I might not like it, we might not agree with it, but to say that they don't care about their citizens is just plain dumb and uneducated from all that they do and say.
Stable regional powers don't build islands in contested waters and countries that care about their citizens don't put them in labor camps, what have you been reading that tells you this?
1. What makes you think that they consider the Uighurs their citizens? Are they really Chinese citizens, considering that they don't have the same cultural, biological, or ancestral background? Under no traditional definition would they be considered citizens of China; certainly Aristotle wouldn't consider them so in the West, and Confucius wouldn't in the East. So, I'd encourage you to engage your history of what makes a nation, a citizen, and the definitions of that term through out history before rashly saying what a country may do with its citizens.
Not that what the Uighurs have been going through is moral, simply that I claim they are not Chinese, thus the Chinese Communist Party doesn't care about them because it DOES care about its citizens. It doesn't want to deal with a radical Islam within its borders, doesn't want to deal with multi-religious or multi-ethnic strife, and does what we see because of it. We can say that we don't like or prefer their system, but if you don't understand THE POINT AND END OF THEIR ACTIONS, than you should educate yourself on the topic before speaking.
2. The point is to ensure stability. Sometimes that means showing others that you're not afraid of confrontation, so that they don't confront you on areas that you don't want to deal with them on. If you don't understand that stability is something to be worked towards and then maintained, and not something that is magically achieved without strife and then forgotten about, then again, educate yourself before speaking.
Because China was treated like our slave dog that would heel and sit when we said to, and now we find it barking at an inconvenient time where we can't do jack to stop it from slipping the chain should it wish. But all of its actions have been to avoid provocation from a Washington that seems to want to do all it can to start a war, while all China wants is regional stability. To do so means showing economic, political, cultural, and military independence; which it is doing in spades.
I consider people living within a countries borders to be either citizens with full legal rights or illegal immigrants with limited rights, but without harm or retribution.
"...the Chinese Communist Party doesn't care about them (Uyghurs)..." - I agree, but whether they are citizens or illegal immigrants they aren't being treated the way I believe they should.
"...while all China wants is regional stability." - I completely disagree and China's actions confirm this.
The conversation isn't about YOU, it's about THEM. Why you, in your arrogance, think you get to define what a citizen is or is not, what such a person may or may not be entitled to in justice, is exactly the problem. You just discarded 2000 years of history in two different cultures and then wonder why China and other Asian cultures look with increasing skepticism on the West.
As far as stability, you should brush up more on military history. Displays of power and arrogance often lead to peaceful resolutions just as often as conflict; the difference always lies in the status and goals of both sides. I suspect Taiwan will peacefully join China after all the bluster because it's clear the US is a waining military power that throws its allies under the bus while China will quietly buy all the plants, people, and politicians with the whole world distracted by the military bluster.
Actually, the conversation I'm having with you is about me, inclusive. And, it contains no arrogance, only opinion which I give freely. Your knowledge of history may be greater than mine but I still feel good about my opinion knowing that it's based on my western perspective and limited knowledge of history.
Since I'm clear that I'm giving opinion I'm not sure why you insist that I'm "discarding...history" or that I'm "...defining citizen...or, justice...
You have made some definitive statements regarding the aims of the CCP and their role in the world, what is the basis of your knowledge of their intentions?
In the macro view, allowing the growth of uncontrolled gov't regulation was the wrong move. Garret's book, "Ex America", in the 1930's, correctly nailed the revolution that took place.
Unfortunately, that ship has sailed, so inordinate amounts of pain and suffering will be the things that will "fix" this.
When the repellent mass man and mass woman can't charge their iDevice in order to poast and virtue signal on social media, then we might move in the right direction.
Good one
not to worry. When we colonize Mars we can exploit the abundant supplies of unobtainium located on that planet. Two of the main properties of Unobtainium aside from it's many unique properties are that it is stronger than aluminum and lighter than steel
Interesting article! Two niggles:
1. "The energy crisis that started in Europe has spread into China, and authorities there have taken draconian steps to curtail industries that require substantial energy to operate”. There is no energy crisis in China. There was a brief interlude when, after removing 1 billion tonnes of coal from production each year since 2015 and simultaneously encountering an early winter AND an unprecedented manufacturing boom that supplies were tight. But everything's back on track as China is adding more renewable generating capacity each month than the rest of the world combined.
2. "Allowing China to abuse its environment so it can flood the world with cheap goods and put our manufacturers at a terminal disadvantage is dumb policy”. China has never abused its environment the way we abused ours. They have nothing to match our 1100 toxic Superfund sites. They consolidated rare earth and magnesium mining SPECIFICALLY to protect the environment.
Then why do some provinces need to pollinate fruit trees by hand? The bees didn't suicide themselves.
Several hybrid crops require artificial pollination
So your argument is that since they do not have any superfund like designated sites that they are environmentally responsible? That the Chinese communist government does not publicly report environmental pollution means it does not occur? Wow, such insight. I bet it does wonders for your social credit score. You are going to be able to take the fast trains again in no time.
"Only those who are authentic, true and real can fully realize their own nature. If they can fully realize their own nature, they can fully realize human nature. If they can fully realize human nature they can fully realize the nature of things. If they can fully realize the nature of things they can take part in the transforming and nourishing process of Heaven and Earth. If they can take part in the transforming and nourishing process of Heaven and Earth they can form a trinity with Heaven and Earth". Confucius, Doctrine of the Mean.
Though more numerous today than ever, the Chinese thrive on land they have tilled for five thousand years, land that hosts ten percent of world’s plant species and fourteen percent of its wild animals, thanks to their ancient observation that, since man and Mother Nature are mutually dependent, man must care for his Mother.
The world’s first ecological legislation, banning tree-felling in Spring and fishing in July, was passed in 2000 BC. In 700 BC the noted Taoist Guan Zhong advocated state monopoly of natural resources, “A king who does not protect the environment does not deserve to be called king.” In 400 BC the Law of Fields ruled that river courses must not be blocked and vegetation must not be burned off in winter. In 200 BC Yang Fu advocated protecting an exhaustive list of endangered species and in 200 AD Taoists chose twenty-four mountain sites as the first nature reserves in history, set detailed rules for the protection of their animals, plants, water, and mineral resources, and taught local people survival skills so that they could live without hunting or large scale agriculture. Their practice of boiling water (for sanitation) and steeping leaves in it (for enjoyment) gave birth to tea.
In 1030 AD Confucian Zhang Zhai[1] confessed, “Heaven is my father and Earth is my mother and even such a small creature as I finds an intimate place in their midst. Therefore that which extends throughout the universe I regard as my body and that which directs the universe I consider as my nature. All people are my brothers and sisters and all things are my companions.” By 1200 AD, China counted one hundred and fifty nature reserves that have served as the settings for legends of animal deities and immortals, and all of which still exist and still harbor rare and endangered animals and plants. Historian Jonathan Schlesinger says the First Qing Emperor practiced environmentalism five hundred years ago:
I think of Changbaishan. It’s a volcano on the border between North Korea and China and the Manchus considered the lake inside the crater to be holy territory because it was the birthplace of the Manchus. The court had special rules on collecting ginseng or trapping sable and other fur-bearing animals on the mountain. When British explorers first climbed the mountain in the late 1800s they referred to it as untouched and unspoiled nature. In fact, it was very much touched. People had poached on the land but the court had been using its resources to protect that territory. The People’s Republic of China has now converted the space into a nature reserve[2].
In 1909, concerned about America’s deteriorating soil health Franklin King[3], chief of the USDA’s Division of Soil Management, found Chinese farmers growing crops in the same soil year after year with no loss of fertility and called their technique ‘permanent agriculture.’ We call it ‘permaculture’.

[1] Zhang, who had studied Daoism, said all things are composed of a primordial substance, qi, that includes matter and the forces that govern interactions between matter, yin and yang. In its dispersed, rarefied state, qi is invisible and insubstantial, but when it condenses it becomes a solid or liquid and takes on new properties. All material things are composed of condensed qi: rocks, trees, even people. There is nothing that is not qi. Thus, in a real sense, everything has the same essence.
[2] The 400,000 acre Changbaishan Biosphere Reserve is located in the northeast of China on the border with the People’s Democratic Republic of Korea.
[3] Chinese Peasants Taught the USDA to Farm Organically in 1909. By Lina Zeldovich JSTOR Daily. May 21, 2019
Between 1980-2015, the economy grew sixtyfold while energy consumption grew fivefold[1]–an eighty percent decline in energy intensity. Carbon intensity has fallen by fifty percent since 2005 and renewable power consumption is rising twenty-five percent annually and should reach twenty percent of total consumption by 2025. When London’s Environmental Investigation Agency reported that dozens of Chinese companies were still using toxic CFC-11 to make foam, the government phased out production of 280,000 tonnes of ozone-depleting substances (ODS) and set quotas on the manufacture, import and use of polluting chemicals like carbon tetrachloride. In 2015 the Pearl River Delta Industrial Trial Spot became the first region to reach America’s EPA air quality standard and, by 2017, ninety percent of China’s cities had reached their targets. The World Health Organization says that, between 2013-2016, the sixty biggest Chinese cities lowered their particulate emissions by thirty percent

[1] Energy intensity level of primary energy (MJ/$2011 PPP GDP) fell from 21.2 in 1990 to 6.7 in 2015 (World Bank)
As usual, an excellent article Doomberg. China has really decimated the manufacturing landscape in both the U.S. and Mexico, where I have lived for more than 30 years. however it's worth remembering how it is they got admitted to the WTO and what country lobbied almost as hard for China"s ascencion to that organization as China itself. That country would have been the US and they beat-up on Mexico until The Mexican president relented and signed to allow China to join in December of 2001, I believe it was. Mexico was the last signature needed and the US threatened it with trade sanctions if it didn't comply wirh it's wishes. Immediately the manufacturing jobs started leaving Mexico by the thousands and China became exactly what the US. wanted it to become...a cheap manufacturing platform for western manufacturers. Don't blame China. Blame ourselves and Wall Street.
Western Magnesium - ticker MLYF is working to bring magnesium production back to the US using a clean, non-toxic, low energy production process! www.westernmagnesium.com
I see the fundamental issues here as being how does the planet deal with dwindling natural resources and also keep our environment livable. In the past shrinking resource bases have often been the cause for war. Lately, it seems that the sound of the war drums is increasing in volume. Do you think that many in the western industrialized world or the emerging economies would willingly accept a lower standard of living to begin solving this problem?
Would industrialized hemp products be a viable replacement?
Great read Chicken...how long did it take you to decide if the mustache goes above or below the beak?..
Doomberg has done a great job of identifying many problems we are facing as we are transitioning to greener (less reliable and efficient) energy.
It is claimed that it is done in the name of science, but I would more accurately call it superficial science. It does not stand up with any serious analysis.
Doomberg, I'd be interested in seeing a thorough and thought out writing from the team on how to handle some of these topics on a policy level - state subsidies, tariffs, etc. It seems that the policies of both political parties are designed to war against each other for maximum failure; unions raise labor costs without the focus on actually producing goods, while the "free market" religious mantra almost always assures that we'll be undercut by states and locals with lower living standards, lower environmental standards, willing to state subsidize, and/or willing to engage in currency manipulation.
Obviously, its a complicated topic! One worthy of the Doomberg team!
Hard to say. All I've seen from the reading I've done is that their focus is on becoming a stable regional power that cares about the virtue of its citizens - in that order. It will focus on doing what it can for its citizens only after ensuring political stability, and has made it very clear it does NOT CARE to follow the consumerist-hedonist slide the West has. The tech crack down was to pre-emptively take away power before they could have more power on information and the economy than the State thought healthy. The same for why they're allowing the current Evergrande stuff to go down.
The Chinese Communist Party care about its citizens much as a hammer cares about a nail
That's a ridiculous claim. They've grown their economy while trying to keep investors from taking profits out of the system and trying to keep other countries from undercutting their labor. In the Evergrande debacle they're trying to make whole the little men rather than the bankers. They're outlawing hedonism in the forms of effeminism, videogames, and what they see as the lack of morality in movies. They're trying to fight gamification in investments.
What parent wouldn't try to help their children?
What parent wouldn't try to keep their inheritance for their ancestors, like the Chinese try to keep money onshore?
What parent wouldn't try to keep sleazy no good snake oil sellers for children that can't tell the difference? Isn't that what our 2008 banking reforms were SUPPOSED to be?
What parent wouldn't tell their children to stop watching too much porn? Or that playing too many videogames is unhealthy? That they need to go out and be productive citizens? Don't we have a whole meme culture of that with Gen Z? We've repeatedly tried to do similar things in the past here in the US about it, but China SIMPLY IS and is doing it quickly.
The same with the tech crack downs. They see how facebook and twitter divide a populace, lead to abilities to silence a sitting POTUS, and all other kinds of crazy, anti-civilizational trends. So they stop it and put regulations on it, like a parent.
They find the route towards immorality and weakness the West has taken sickening, and are doing what they think is best to avoid it. You and I might not like it, we might not agree with it, but to say that they don't care about their citizens is just plain dumb and uneducated from all that they do and say.
Stable regional powers don't build islands in contested waters and countries that care about their citizens don't put them in labor camps, what have you been reading that tells you this?
1. What makes you think that they consider the Uighurs their citizens? Are they really Chinese citizens, considering that they don't have the same cultural, biological, or ancestral background? Under no traditional definition would they be considered citizens of China; certainly Aristotle wouldn't consider them so in the West, and Confucius wouldn't in the East. So, I'd encourage you to engage your history of what makes a nation, a citizen, and the definitions of that term through out history before rashly saying what a country may do with its citizens.
Not that what the Uighurs have been going through is moral, simply that I claim they are not Chinese, thus the Chinese Communist Party doesn't care about them because it DOES care about its citizens. It doesn't want to deal with a radical Islam within its borders, doesn't want to deal with multi-religious or multi-ethnic strife, and does what we see because of it. We can say that we don't like or prefer their system, but if you don't understand THE POINT AND END OF THEIR ACTIONS, than you should educate yourself on the topic before speaking.
2. The point is to ensure stability. Sometimes that means showing others that you're not afraid of confrontation, so that they don't confront you on areas that you don't want to deal with them on. If you don't understand that stability is something to be worked towards and then maintained, and not something that is magically achieved without strife and then forgotten about, then again, educate yourself before speaking.
Because China was treated like our slave dog that would heel and sit when we said to, and now we find it barking at an inconvenient time where we can't do jack to stop it from slipping the chain should it wish. But all of its actions have been to avoid provocation from a Washington that seems to want to do all it can to start a war, while all China wants is regional stability. To do so means showing economic, political, cultural, and military independence; which it is doing in spades.
I consider people living within a countries borders to be either citizens with full legal rights or illegal immigrants with limited rights, but without harm or retribution.
"...the Chinese Communist Party doesn't care about them (Uyghurs)..." - I agree, but whether they are citizens or illegal immigrants they aren't being treated the way I believe they should.
"...while all China wants is regional stability." - I completely disagree and China's actions confirm this.
The conversation isn't about YOU, it's about THEM. Why you, in your arrogance, think you get to define what a citizen is or is not, what such a person may or may not be entitled to in justice, is exactly the problem. You just discarded 2000 years of history in two different cultures and then wonder why China and other Asian cultures look with increasing skepticism on the West.
As far as stability, you should brush up more on military history. Displays of power and arrogance often lead to peaceful resolutions just as often as conflict; the difference always lies in the status and goals of both sides. I suspect Taiwan will peacefully join China after all the bluster because it's clear the US is a waining military power that throws its allies under the bus while China will quietly buy all the plants, people, and politicians with the whole world distracted by the military bluster.
Actually, the conversation I'm having with you is about me, inclusive. And, it contains no arrogance, only opinion which I give freely. Your knowledge of history may be greater than mine but I still feel good about my opinion knowing that it's based on my western perspective and limited knowledge of history.
Since I'm clear that I'm giving opinion I'm not sure why you insist that I'm "discarding...history" or that I'm "...defining citizen...or, justice...
You have made some definitive statements regarding the aims of the CCP and their role in the world, what is the basis of your knowledge of their intentions?